> I don’t care one bit about upgradability or customizability. After a year or two, I’m happy to throw it out and buy a new one. It’s not like upgradability is a bad thing, but it usually comes with tradeoffs to weight and power draw, and I’d rather it all be in one solid package glued together. And I don’t like customizability because I like when all the testing and polish work is put into one configuration.
Jesus christ. What a wasteful and selfish way to look at things.
To defend OP somewhat: his throw out should be someone else’s pre-owned and then we are square.
Not in defense: This is a customer who sees itself as an ultra pro user that only wants the best on all dimensions regardless of economics. Nice that there are about a few hundred of these customers in the world. This is a market that doesn’t exist and frankly, give this customer their wish and they only have other or more wishes.
The MacBook currently has two models, each available in two sizes, each size has three to six default configurations. There are dozens of MacBooks before you even get into the customization options.
Selfish how, because he clearly does not say that upgradability or customizability are bad things? Its also not like hes proposing something that isnt reality for most manufacturers, especially Apple.
I think the selfishness here is related to being fine with generating a pile of electronic waste that becomes a problem for everyone else, as long as he can avoid carrying a few ounces extra.
It's hard to recycle electronics, because separating materials that are chemically bonded together is very labor intensive and isn't worth it from the price of aluminum, copper, lithium, etc alone.
It would have to cost more to dispose of a laptop for this to work out financially.
People don't buy into this kind of signaling these days. It just does not work anymore.
Which e-waste are you currently running on?
You're just not. I know it.
Instead you run out and buy the newest shiniest thing so you can put a docker container into another docker container. And fill landfills with ewaste as a result.
Your engineering practices most directly contribute to ewaste, because extremely powerful PCs from 15 years ago doesn't hold up anymore to ever more shitty layers of javascript and vibecoded python stuffed recursively into ever more docker containers.
geohot is just being honest. That is respectable. All the signaling bullshit - is not.
Could you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? You've done it repeatedly in this thread, unfortunately, and we're trying for the opposite here.
I'm tired of this insane right-wing opinion that having an opinion against waste is just virtue signalling, so we shouldn't care about anything because it's all just "signalling" and it's somehow more honest to not give a shit about anything. It's tired and it's disgusting and it's how we get a world where we don't care about improving our society or our environment.
I do care. You might not, but that's a you problem and not anything to do with me signalling anything. I'm being honest about everything I say. You not accepting that says more about you than it does about me.
Could you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? You've done it repeatedly in this thread, unfortunately, and we're trying for the opposite here.
That's unfair. I'm going unfairly called out even though I stand by my beliefs and I'm only trying to defend myself. How are the replies to my comments in any way acceptable and according to HN guidelines???
"Put your money where your mouth is", come on. That's not acceptable and it's provoking. How can you defend bullies like this?
I specifically responded with an identical reply to the other main commenter you were arguing with, who was also breaking the rules.
Still, someone else breaking the rules doesn't make it ok for you to do so, and pointing the finger at others instead of taking responsibility is not a helpful response.
Jesus christ. What a wasteful and selfish way to look at things.