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The thing is, there's no system of government you can design which confers protection against "approximately half the population, including 2/3s of the highest court and a plain majority of the legislature, is in a personality cult to one guy who completely ignores the law". How could there be? Anyone can just ignore the law and then the people charged with enforcing it can ignore it too. This problem is extra-governmental and does not have governmental solutions.


I fully agree. I think will be debated for a very long time what allowed the USA to get to this point where half the country has talked itself into authoritarianism as a solution to imaginary immigration problems.

For my money I'd say a combination of

1) Poor economic conditions & extreme wealth inequality provides fertile ground for political extremes on all sides.

2) Gerrymandering producing political candidates that are more extreme and more likely to agree with Trump.

3) Over representation of unpopulated rural states in Congress further tipping the balance of Congress towards Trump.

4) The decades long effect of propaganda networks like Fox, Newsmax, etc. producing a media bubble for half the country such that we no longer have a shared reality.

And some interactions between all those factors that exacerbate the problem.


For a root cause below this, I think people have lost perspective on just how good things are. Members of the greatest generation that experienced the great depression and ww2 would be smacking us upside the head if they were still alive. "poor economic conditions" hardly describes the US. It arguably has the best economy in the world.


I don't think this is entirely true. A system of government could dramatically limit the power of the executive or make it easier to remove a president or make it harder for the legislature to make moves (essentially just limit the damage until the cult effect wears off).


While it has its own flaws, I do think that in practice a lot of these things are at least blunted by the Westminster system. (I'm in Canada, so mostly talking about that one specifically... I'm aware there are differences.) I think it kind of addressing both points in a way--limiting the damage of the president and congress.

Everyone elects a member of parliament to the House of Commons. That's it. Our ballots have a single choice on them.

The Prime Minister is just whichever guy a majority in the House of Commons can agree should handle the day-to-day stuff. They have little in the way of codified power, but in practice operate fairly similarly to the US President--selecting ministers to lead key agencies, making orders in council ("executive orders") where Parliament has delegated them that power, etc.

However they remain subordinate to and serve at the pleasure of the House of Commons. At any time the house can make a motion of no confidence and remove the Prime Minister with a simple majority. Certain things such as the budget are an automatic confidence vote--failing to pass a budget means you're dismissed. (Sometimes they're replaced, often this triggers an election to, excuse the pun, give voters an opportunity to get their house in order.)

They're not dramatically limited relative to the US President, but their position is a lot more tenuous and requires ongoing support from government for them to remain in power. Instead of shutting down the government if the prime minister can't put a budget together, we just fire the prime minister. Instead of doing a split-brained thing where two parts of the government get deadlocked, we just fire the prime minister.

What happens if the House of Commons goes crazy? Canada has a Senate. It's 105 members that are selected by appointment. They serve until age 75. They're generally unaffiliated with any specific party. There are actually some women there (~55% versus ~30% in the house). The members are selected by whoever is in power at the time of a vacancy, however it's not generally treated as partisan (and steps are being taken to make it explicitly non-partisan). Over time, though, it would tend to follow larger election/political trends. Since it's a "lifetime" appointment, the Senate can act against populism and as a damper to pull the government towards status quo.

The Senate is described as the chamber of "sober second thought" because anything the House of Commons passes has to be passed by the Senate to become law. It's rare for something to pass the house and not the senate (some notable examples being things like an attempt to criminalize abortion), however I'll say with no basis that that doesn't mean they don't have influence--the house is unlikely to try and send anything up to the senate that they have an indication would be rejected.

And if the Senate goes crazy? We left an escape hatch--constitutional amendments are not voted on by the Senate. The House of Commons can pass a constitutional amendment which has to be approved by the provincial assemblies in at least 7 (of 10) provinces collectively representing at least half of the population.

So to boil that rambling mess down--

The Legislature is essentially trusted with running everything. They delegate power to the Executive which is given wide powers, but the process of taking away that power is made very easy. The check on the Legislature is a group designed to be a lagging indicator and not beholden to anyone that acts as a damper. If anything isn't working, we default to throwing it all out and trying again. We left some escape hatches that involve going back to the people.

We haven't had to deal with the same sort of direct attacks that the US has, but... well, fingers crossed.


That certainly seems like an interesting system, and at the moment I'm open to ideas, although it's essentially impossible that my country will adopt a new system.


Also worth noting that this is not the result of some kind of transient phenomenon: the Republican Party and its allies in the business sector have been deliberately laying the groundwork for much of this for decades.

Just as one example, the Fox News network has been providing propaganda that strays far too often into outright deception for something like 30 years now, and, as many of us can attest, there is a whole category of people who have been watching it for most of that time and believe everything it says. Because of the way it frames reality, that also means they will refuse to believe anything that disagrees with it, and deem it liberal propaganda trying to trick them. My wife recalls telling her parents to "stop watching that" during the 2000 election campaign; they did not, and now are fully down the Trump rabbit hole, with very little hope that we could get them to believe even simple things like "some of the people ICE is detaining are fully legal".




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