What was your actual point in this conversation? I took it as, "building is fun":
> No. I said building in general IS fun. That's my premise ;-)
Then I disagreed with that saying that building in itself is not necessarily fun, only building certain things is fun for certain people, which you seem to take issue with. I posed a counterfactual statement to your general rule, which means that your general rule cannot be true, as in propositional logic.
> Again, that's not been my direct experience nor the experience of other Software Engineers that I know who are building businesses.
> Most likely you think it's not fun for you. That doesn't mean it's not fun in general, to engineers. Maybe you've chatted about this, anecdotally, with other Software Engineers, maybe you've read some online threads and it's formed a cognitive bias. That's very typical. I can clearly see it in these very generic statements.
I said that in general, regardless of one's anecdotal experience, engineers tend towards building technology rather than business aspects like sales and marketing. Much as you disagree with me on anecdotal evidence, I also disagree with you. Whatever, seems to be a disagreement on principles, we can't convince each other.
But, regardless of our disagreements, please don't make statements like these:
> I'm sure you'll snap back with why I'm wrong. Maybe even sprinkle in some snark. Making sure to get the last word in. Please indulge yourself.
> It's now time for me to get back to having fun building my business as a software engineer :-)
When you engage in discourse, you are not above criticism or disagreement. Don't act holier than thou when someone disagrees with you. It harms the nature of argumentation, especially on fora like HN where it's expected more than other fora.
> No. I said building in general IS fun. That's my premise ;-)
Then I disagreed with that saying that building in itself is not necessarily fun, only building certain things is fun for certain people, which you seem to take issue with. I posed a counterfactual statement to your general rule, which means that your general rule cannot be true, as in propositional logic.
> Again, that's not been my direct experience nor the experience of other Software Engineers that I know who are building businesses.
> Most likely you think it's not fun for you. That doesn't mean it's not fun in general, to engineers. Maybe you've chatted about this, anecdotally, with other Software Engineers, maybe you've read some online threads and it's formed a cognitive bias. That's very typical. I can clearly see it in these very generic statements.
I said that in general, regardless of one's anecdotal experience, engineers tend towards building technology rather than business aspects like sales and marketing. Much as you disagree with me on anecdotal evidence, I also disagree with you. Whatever, seems to be a disagreement on principles, we can't convince each other.
But, regardless of our disagreements, please don't make statements like these:
> I'm sure you'll snap back with why I'm wrong. Maybe even sprinkle in some snark. Making sure to get the last word in. Please indulge yourself.
> It's now time for me to get back to having fun building my business as a software engineer :-)
When you engage in discourse, you are not above criticism or disagreement. Don't act holier than thou when someone disagrees with you. It harms the nature of argumentation, especially on fora like HN where it's expected more than other fora.