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You've crossed into incivility and flamewar as well. Tedious, lengthy spats like this are definitely not interesting by the standards of this site, so please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html



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It isn't worth anyone's time to disentangle such knots of who attacked who for what opinion they could only have if $XYZ.

It only seems that way when you get sucked in to the flamewar vortex, and then only temporarily. Please just don't do this on HN.


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Continuing to break the site guidelines like this is going to get you banned here. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and using the site as intended from now on?

You might also find these other links helpful for getting a clearer idea of the spirit of the site:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html

http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html

http://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html




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