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The amount of times this has been asked with no confirmation leads me to believe they still do not.

Tesla fanboys gush about how FSD can understand LEO at irregular traffic conditions, but no company I’m aware of has confirmed their systems are capable.


> The amount of times this has been asked with no confirmation leads me to believe they still do not.

They do follow hand signals from police. There are many videos documenting the behaviour. Here is one from waymo: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/03/scaling-waymo-one-safely-acro...

Look for the embed next to the text saying “The Waymo Driver recently interpreting a police officer’s hand signals in a Los Angeles intersection.”

Or here is a video observing the behaviour in the wild: https://youtu.be/3Qk_QhG5whw?si=GCBBNJqB22GRvxk1

Do you want confirmation about something more specific?


Thanks for sharing! Happy to see progress here and an actual statement from a company vs normies arguing they are capable or not..

Is there confirm that it’s not remotely controlled at this point?

That's between Waymo and their investors at this point. They claim it's not, but it's not there's any way for them to actually prove they aren't, like the moon landing.

FSD on the other hand works fine without sleight of hand techniques, since I’ve taken it up to rural Maine without any cellular connectivity and it worked great, even in irregular rural traffic situations.

I very much doubt they would refer to that as “the Waymo Driver interpreting” the hand signals.

Teslas currently have a driver in the front who could take over in these situations.

Waymo said they normally handle traffic light outages as 4-way stops, but sometimes call home for help - perhaps if they detect someone in the intersection directing traffic ?

Makes you wonder in general how these cars are designed to handle police directing traffic.


It kind of makes sense. Why program or train on such a rare occurrence. Just send it off to a human to interpret and be done with it. If that's the case then Tesla is closer to Waymo then previously thought. Maybe even ahead.

I don't think traffic light outages (e.g. flashing yellow) or police directing traffic at intersections is that rare, but regardless these cars do need to handle it in a safe and legal manner, which either means recognizing police gestures in a reliable way, or phoning home.

We know that Waymos phone home when needed, but not sure how Tesla handles these situations. I'm not sure how you conclude anything about Tesla based on their current temporary "safety monitor" humans in the cars - this is just a temporary measure until they get approval to go autonomous.


I seem to remember as a kid that cops would be directing traffic often if a signal was out or malfunctioning. I haven't seen that in years. The only time I see anyone directing traffic is around accidents, construction zones, or special events.

I can conclude based on using FSD every single day. I've hit issues just like this, as well as police directing. And it's completely fine.

Googling for this, apparently Tesla do try to recognize police gestures, and are getting better at it.

I wonder who gets the ticket when a driverless car does break the law and get stopped by police? If it's a Taxi service (maybe without a passenger in the car) then maybe it'd the service, but that's a bit different than issuing a traffic ticket to a driver (where there's points as well as a fine).

What if it's a privately owner car - would the ticket go to the car owner, or to the company that built the car ?!


This is the #1 thing that keeps me from going all in on Gemini.

Their retention controls for both consumer and business suck. It’s the worst of any of the leaders.


I empathize with this as vice news at their peak did similar things in Chicago, which is why most chicagoans don’t like Vice.


This has been an ongoing issue the past couple of years for Disney at their parks and cruise ships.

People are spotting obvious AI slop artwork places and it’s so poorly done.

Disney used to have artist integrity, what a sad path to drag everyone down.

I guess it’s back to the good out Japanese studios who are forcing craft and skill still from artists (the world is full of talent, at least, for now).


Extortion


My favorite story to tell friends about District 9 is how the first two times I watched it at home, my version did not have subtitles at all - so I was always so confused by the alien monologue scenes.

It wasn’t until I was at a friends home who had it playing in the background, I glanced at the TV and jokingly said I wish we knew what the aliens were saying…lo and behold, there’s subtitles.


Same. Echo chamber hell. I appreciated the modernness of the interior as a design nerd, though it was uncomfortable as a primary desk for all the reasons you’ve said. Never mind the never ending flood of visitors up and down the walkways.

The roof was the main reprieve about the entire environment, wonderfully maintained and honestly a blessing to escape the main campus.

Nonetheless. Frank is a legend, very fortunate to have been able to been able to experience his work on a daily basis.


Nooooooo :’(


They are stubborn and have a lot more legal baggage than Anthropic does. Settling admits guilt…and OAI has a lot of overdue guilt they will dodge until the current admins don’t protect them anymore.


Settling does not admit guilt, legally speaking


This is what they hired Fidji for, and they are going down the same dark path she took Meta down.

Everything’s for sale, and they will amplify whatever == revenue.


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