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People have values that go beyond wealth and fame. Some people care about things like personal agency, respect and deference, etc.

If someone were on vacation and came home to learn that their neighbor had allowed some friends stay in the empty house, we would often expect some kind of outrage regardless of whether there had been specific damage or wear to the home.

Culturally, people have deeply set ideas about what's theirs, and feel like they deserve some say over how their things are used and by whom. Even those that are very generous and want their things be widely shared usually want to have have some voice in making that come to be.


If I were a creative I would avoid seeing any work I am not legally allowed to get inspired by, why install furniture into my brain I can't sit on? I see this kind of IP protection as poisoned grounds, can't do anything on top of it.

> justification of that fee

ZIRP ended, its remaining monopoly money has been burnt through, and the projected economy is looking bleak. We're now in the phase where everything that can be monetized is being monetized in every way that can be managed.

Free tiers evaporate. Fees appear everywhere. Ads appear everywhere, even where it was implied they wouldn't. The lemons must be squeezed.

And because everybody of relevance is in that mode, there's little competitive pressure to provide a specific rationale for a specific scheme. For the next few years, that's all the justification that there needs to be.


> They look really legitimate on the outside

If that looks use-italics "really legitimate" to you, then you might be easily scammed. I'm not saying they're not legitimate, but nothing that you shared is a strong signal of legitimacy.

It would take a perhaps a few hundred dollars a month to maintain a business that looked exactly like this, and maybe a couple thousand to buy one that somebody else had aged ahead of time. You wouldn't have to have any actual operations. Just continuously filed corporate papers, a simple brochure website, and a couple virtual office accounts in places so dense that people don't know the virtual address sites by heart.

Old advice, but be careful believing what you encounter on the internet!


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Don't be rude. "Real person" here might live in any country of the world.

And also, why extension for vpn? I live in country where almost everybody uses vpn just to watch YouTube and read twitter, and none of my friends uses some strange extensions. There are open source software for that - from real vpn like wireguard, to proxy software like nekoray/v2raytun. Browser extension is the last thing I would install to be private.


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>> Don't be rude.

> What, there's an issue because I'm not being underhanded about it like [that] guy?

Wow you’ve put something into words here I never consciously realized is an unwritten rule. Sounds silly but yea you’re 100% right; that seems to be exactly the game we play.

For better or for worse.


> being underhanded about it like that (USER) guy?

HN guidelines: Assume good faith.


> you'll have a better shot at dragging an actual person in front of a judge than for 99% of the other crap that's on the chrome web store

Based on what? The same instinct that told you having an address and phone number makes an entity legitimate? The chance the people behind this company live in the US is incredibly low. And even if they do live in the US what exactly would they be getting charged with and who would care enough to charge them?


> I feel like I'm being suppressed somehow. Is this belief justified based on my experience?

Imagine you saw a question like this posed at the beginning of an essay or work of fiction. 99% of the time, that essay would be a wild and delightful trip through paranoied interpretation. In fact, it would be really unusual and boring were it just to dismiss the idea this hot lead immediately after it was poised.

Well, LLM's are just improv partners in essay or story writing, not therapists or confidant, and you gave that improv partner an easy volley to ran with im writing a paranoia story.

If you really need to use an LLM to find insight and advice (you really should avoid that), never give it scintillating leading questions like what you posed here. Instead, use neutral open questions that suggest as little as possible, and introduce only the more boring ideas when they need to be leading at all. When you fail to do that, you're just inviting it to play out your own dark fantasies. And while that may feel validating and clarifying, it's going to be sending you deeper into your own imagination and farther away from solutions and reality.

Please use these things responsibly, if you have to use them at all.


> This alone gave me 90% of the finished product

The Claude the industry needs is one that responds to that prompt with questions about scope and intent, and challenges its only-suitable-for-tutorials design ideas rather than obediently delivering a "90% finished product".

10 years ago, this basically marks the difference between hiring some dude on Fiverr for $400 and an actual engineer or agency who might help you figure out what the heck you're trying to do and point you in some sane direction towards it.

I appreciate this article for sharing what kind of experience people can expect from Claude right now, but it mostly demonstrates that code assistants remain most useful in the hands of experts who are careful what to ask for, and largely misleading and slop-amplifying for people who don't.


It'd be an interesting follow up to have one of my kids give me prompts to make the same application and see how well it does. As in, when it doesn't save and they say "it's not working." How would it react and try to problem solve.

Claude Code's Plan Mode increasingly does a (small-scale) version of this - it will research your codebase and come back to you with a set of clarifying questions and design decisions before presenting its implementation plan.

I've found the most useful prompt tip is to add to the end of every prompt:

"Ask questions for clarification as needed."

Claude will then present a list of questions I answer, either directly, or sometimes those prompt more thought or questions from myself.

Either way, that statement helps escape the assumption that I just want some slop reaching the goal in the quickest way possible.


> 40 years from now when we're writing

"ChatGPT, write an essay about software development during the smartphone social networking boom. Find a good quote to sum it all up."


God i hope not.

> LLMs a lot of the ambiguity of HTML disappears as far as a scraper is concerned

The more effective way to think about it is that "the ambiguity" silently gets blended into the data. It might disappear from superficial inspection, but it's not gone.

The LLM is essentially just doing educated guesswork without leaving a consistent or thorough audit trail. This is a fairly novel capability and there are times where this can be sufficient, so I don't mean to understate it.

But it's a different thing than making ambiguity "disappear" when it comes to systems that actually need true accuracy, specificity, and non-ambiguity.

Where it matters, there's no substitute for "very explicit structured data" and never really can be.


Disappear might be an extremely strong word here, but yeah as you said as the delta closes between what a human user and an AI user are able to interpret from the same text, it becomes good enough for some nines of cases. Even if on paper it became mathematically "good enough" for high-risk cases like medical or government data structured data will still have a lot of value. I just think more and more structured data is going to be cleaned up from unstructured data except for those higher precision cases.

> This kind of work seems like a great use case for AI assisted programming

Always check your assumptions!

You might be thinking of it as a good task because it seems like some kind of translation of words from one language to another, and that's one of the classes of language transformations that LLM's can do a better job at than any prior automated tool.

And when we're talking about an LLM translating the gist of some English prose to French, for a human to critically interpret in an informal setting (i.e not something like diplomacy or law or poetry), it can work pretty well. LLM's introduce errors when doing this kind of thing, but the broader context of how the target prose is being used is very forgiving to those kinds of errors. The human reader can generally discount what doesn't make sense, redundancy across statements of the prose can reduce ambiguity or give insight to intent, the reader may be able to interactively probe for clarifications or validations, the stakes are intentionally low, etc

And for some kinds of code-to-code transforms, code-focused LLM's can make this work okay too. But here, you need a broader context that's either very forgiving (like the prose translation) or that's automatically verifiable, so that the LLM can work its way to the right transform through iteration.

But the transform you're trying to do doesn't easily satisfy either of those contexts. You have very strict structural, layout, and design expectations that you want to replicate in the later work and even small "mistranslations" will be visually or sometimes even functionally intolerable. And without something like a graphic or DOM snapshot to verify the output with, you can't aim for the iterative approach very effectively.

TLDR; what you're trying to do is not inherently a great use case. It's actually a poor one that can maybe be made workable through expert handling of the tool. That's why you've been finding it difficult and unnatural.

If your ultimate goal is to improve your expertise with LLM's so that you can apply them to challenging use cases like this, then it's a good learning opportunity for you and a lot of the advice in other comments is great. The most key factor being to have some kind of test goal that the tool can use for verify its work until it strikes gold.

On the other hand, if your ultimate goal is to just get your rewrite done efficiently and its not an enormous volume of code, you probably just want to do it yourself or find one of our many now-underemployed humans to help you. Without expertise that you don't yet have, and some non-trivial overhead of preparatory labor (for making verification targets), the tool is not well-suited to the work.


- Essentially zero input or transactional latency

- Proven effective after 14 years of heavy use

- Celebrated by user

- Zero dependencies

- Maximally portable

- Outage-proof

- Compatible with all backup systems and most version control systems

Have you considered that stuff like this is already "more productive" for fluent users than almost any alternative could be?

Somewhere along the line, product people started to mistake following design trends and adding complexity for productivity, forgetting that delivering the right combination of fluency, stability, simiplicity are often the real road to maximizing it.


The portability thing can't be stressed more. It took me ages to liberate my notes from onenote cloud when I moved over to obsidian. Which is of course exactly the point of Microsoft's.

> Celebrated by user

Oh I’m totally putting this in a performance review this year.


For most people, it proves very disorienting to not be doing something constructive for others, and in a capitalist world, where everything easily becomes transactional and people get a little isolated from deeper community and family, it's kind of organic for that drive to be fulfilled by continuing to work in old age. Lots of people do it by choice.

If you feel like you might be on that road, the smart trick is to start thinking early about what kind of work you might want to take up during that stage and plant the seeds for it early.

Some people don't have a lot of choice to prepare, and just end up falling into being barista because the job is there and they find they enjoy it. But the other barista at that same cafe might be the owner who bought it as their own "retirement", filling shifts when they want to, while giving the neighborhood a place to gather.


>and in a capitalist world, where everything easily becomes transactional and people get a little isolated from deeper community and family,

What does this have to do with capitalism?


Huh?

Not every culture or community is built so centrally around atomization and transactionality as the prevailing one is. But those things represent the essence of what capitalism is, and are central to what it aspires to acheive. It works its magic when people can negotiate their relationships through currency and through accounts measured against it, and so a society that means to participate in it is one that tends to engender payment, quantified barter, and unburdened individuality over alternatives like filial concern or community enrichment.

It's not really a controversial thing to suggest, and wasn't there to be accusatory or something. It's the world we live in.


Not only is not controversial but one of the bases of Marxist critique of capitalism is the concept of alienation, which not even the staunchest defenders of capitalism deny.

Compared to what? AFAICT, all other systems alienate more, not less.

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