Hmm conspiracy theory... Nope, Microsoft is a for-profit company with a huge platform that might be slipping into irrelevance.
They're playing the cards they have at any given time - when it means supporting standards, they do that. And when they're totally dominant, they tend to set the standards.
I'm not even suggesting it might be intentional - the IE team and the MS top management don't necessarily have the same long-term goals is all.
Maybe the IE team would even love to go cross platform and compete as a browser and not as a part of a larger platform.
Hey ! Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I'm sad that you think I was trying to come up with something - I just wrote about this strange (but honnest !) feeling I got, as people talking in nice terms about IE hasn't happenned in a while.
In fact I don't think I'm criticizing IE itself at all.
Perhaps I could re-phrase my point more simply: I don't think IE 9's standards support means "the web wins" in the long run, since IE is still tied to Windows for strategic reasons.
You're of course right that it's a good thing for web devs right now, though.
That's what standards support is, it means that you can use IE9 on Windows and Opera on Linux and sites will still work and look the same. It makes no sense at all to say "IE9 is Windows-only so Microsoft can lock users in" when IE9 is standards compliant and any site built for IE9 will work the exact same way on Linux.
I don't think your argument makes any sense, sorry. If you were talking about IE6, I'd agree, but standards compliance means never having to use the exact same browser for anything.
OK, but you still never really answered the question. What's the benefit of having IE available to other platforms? How does say, a Mac user, benefit from having IE9 available for download to them over Safari?
They don't benefit now from using it over Safari. They benefit from it just as a promise from MS that they won't screw up the web just to sell more Windows PCs. As long as it's relatively easy to obtain IE for Mac, it's not a useful tool to sabotage the standards in a platform lock-in grab.
However, I agree with you that it seems totally unrealistic to expect MS to do this. Not because they're evil, but just because why bother?
"I don't think IE 9's standards support means "the web wins" in the long run, since IE is still tied to Windows for strategic reasons."
So what? How is the Web threatened or at risk or even _impacted at all_ by IE9 being Windows-only? With IE9 supporting standards so thoroughly, it very directly means that IE9 being Windows-only doesn't make a lick of difference anymore.
The game for the Web is standards. With all major browsers supporting standards, browser and platform themselves are irrelevant factors for the Web to prosper as a platform and a medium.
Yep. Look I love platitudes as much as the next guy, but that's all this is.
My entire world is consumed with interactions with business owners (lead generation for the service industry). We work with thousands of small businesses, some "tough" and some not so much. To me the defining characteristic of a successful business man is always "obsessively analytical", not simply "decisive".
Every successful business person I've ever encountered can tell me (to the number) the key metrics for their business on demand. They know that our program is generating x% return on their spend. They know that we're +- y% better than a competitor. They know everything about their business.
When you've aggressively instrumented your business and have a lot of data, it's easy to be decisive. I've also encountered a number of business people who are decisive, but are more or less always shooting from their gut. They don't tend to do very well. For them everything is a guess, even if they're really sure that they are right.
Toughness is overrated. Great businesses are built by constantly trying to assess and reduce risk. You don't do that by being tough, you do it by being fascinated with data.
This is really the great insight of science: the irrelevance of social status as a determinant of truth. Science was all about replacing mammalian hierarchy games with observation, experiment, and reason in determining the truth. People don't appreciate it much now, but this was really totally new. It had never been done before.
If someone very "alpha male" thinks the world is flat, it is still round. The universe doesn't give a shit about your status.
Neither does the market, really.
Business... or at least business done well... is a science. It's about minimizing and maximizing and optimizing and iterating. It's about building a good fit to a market, and lots of details.
Machismo can be beneficial in certain contexts, but it's not fundamental. You're spot on about analytics and data-driven rational thought.
That's probably a little overly tough, but I agree with your sentiment.
It does have some value, but the excessive machismo is not particularly appealing. Yes, you get shit done. Yes, getting shit done is a prerequisite to getting a startup done. No, that doesn't make you some kind of super-human being. There are plenty of others out there, outside the world of startups, who get tremendous amounts of shit done.
With a bit more life experience, you may learn that there's more to effectiveness than being "tough". You can get a whole lot more done with intelligence than with mere bullishness.
Accolades about one's toughness and perseverance are also more credible when they're not self-gratifying.
If this article was written by PG about WePay, that would be one thing. Even if its 100% true, it sounds less impressive when the author is telling others how great someone else thinks he (or his company) is. It just came off a bit too self-congratulatory to me. And that's saying a lot in the already narcissistic world of startups.
Dude, seriously... I can't believe it. Talking about freedom, comparing europe and china ... Come on ! Is this a joke ?
Your friend is getting sued, so you move to a country where people are put in jail for their political opinions ?
Don't invent stupid excuses, there's no need to. You're 24 years old and are looking for opportunity, and China, despite being a bloody dictatorship were a billion people work in slave-like conditions, is the new land of opportunity, so you're giving it a try. Good for you.
But cut the ridiculous crap. You sound like a spoiled brat.
Guys, wikileaks is basically fighting for survival against the US government, among others. Can we really suggest they "just" use this or that, or complain that they're not handling thing so well ? They are basically trying to exist in a space that's almost impossible for most countries to exist in.
We're not talking about your average (or even uniquely scalable) startup here.
Seriously, do you have any doubt that anyone involved in this could end up secretly detained for years ? Assange is taking huge personal risks here, so yeah, it is about him, to a very large extent.
That may be true, but it's not as though Wikileaks has been particularly well-managed, or done much to decrease their (by which I mean 'his') exposure. There has been a lot of what appears to be, to put it bluntly, showboating, intentional or otherwise.
I can't say whether it stems from a desire for celebrity on Assange's part, which would be totally incompatible with the mission of a site like WL, or if it's unintentional and simply the result of accidental mismanagement. But either way I don't think it bodes well for the future of the site.
That said, I don't think that Assange or Wikileaks in general are critical. If nothing else, he proved that there is material out there waiting to be released. The concept, at least in broad strokes, is still sound; it was the execution that was flawed.
I think there is an open opportunity right now for someone to step in and do right -- less politically, less bombastically, more securely and more decentralized -- what WL aimed to do.
Guys, wikileaks is basically fighting for survival against the US government,
Seems unlikely; they could well be exploring legal and technical options - but due to where Wikileaks operates from the US government will have a hard time taking it apart. There could be a black bag operation in effect; but I have a feeling if that were the case we would soon be hearing about it from Assange.
Seriously, do you have any doubt that anyone involved in this could end up secretly detained for years ?
Yes, someone in Government would have to be insane to risk that. OR Wikileaks would have to release something extremely critical/damaging. Assange is pretty high profile and his disappearance wouldn't go unnoticed.
We're not talking about your average (or even uniquely scalable) startup here.
No, but as pointed out elsewhere there are a lot of highly evolved models for distributions already in use by illegal enterprises. These are efficient, relatively cheap and difficult to track. The problem is that Wikileaks would lose a lot of editorial control; which, I guess, they don't want.
I have a number of ideas that I suggested to them (when they asked for help) to improve their infrastructure but never heard back...
Assange is taking huge personal risks here, so yeah, it is about him, to a very large extent.
I don't buy that - I think mostly he is a bit of an attention seeker and cries wolf at the slightest hint of a conspiracy :) There's not a lot wrong with that but you must bear it in mind when dealing with Wikileaks. I don't think Assange is taking a huge personal risk in terms of western governments. If they can nail him for something legally I am sure they will jump at it - but the political fall out from taking down a whistleblower is huge.
Besides; Wikileaks doesn't actually leak all that much (well, any more).....
What evidence is there that this statement is actually true besides second hand evidence and assange's own statements? If there was documented evidence that the pentagon is after assange, wouldn't it be responsible for assange to "leak" that information?
I think we're getting scooped up in the story of a narcissist. A reliable source of information and a drama do not mix.
Just as a counter-point, the posts to Cryptome from Wikileaks "insiders" all are negative towards Assange. It sounds, if those posts are true, that not even the Wikileaks folks approve of him.
Well, the hard part about paypal and probably google checkout isn't processing payments, it's managing fraud - see Max Levchin's interview in the (very good, imho) "Founders at Work" book.
So I'm not surprised google has to do potentally damaging things to somehow make it all work.
The strange part to me is that they don't require and automate this buyer contact info & tracking number gathering from the start.
Yeah, I would guess people don't like "Hey, I didn't actually read this, but here is something that I imagine must be related." (Even if it does turn out to be relevant and worthwhile.)
True, but I can also see it from the other side: "I feel that I have something worthwhile to contribute, but I don't have time to read the entire article, so I'll just post it here in the hopes that someone finds it interesting/relevant."
I think that it would be somewhat of a stifling approach to just make a blanket proclamation that no one can enter the discussion unless they have full read the article.
I was nodding at this article until I got to the part that said that OpenBSD should have used "Exim or Postfix and MaraDNS or NSD" to replace Sendmail and BIND, and then decided that the author didn't in fact know what he was talking about.
It is however a real critique of OpenBSD's security model that they haven't pursued enhanced access control (Niels had to bolt it on with Systrace because Theo doesn't agree with the concept).
They're playing the cards they have at any given time - when it means supporting standards, they do that. And when they're totally dominant, they tend to set the standards.
I'm not even suggesting it might be intentional - the IE team and the MS top management don't necessarily have the same long-term goals is all.
Maybe the IE team would even love to go cross platform and compete as a browser and not as a part of a larger platform.