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Nationalize it already.


But at least it's not a walled garden. lol


That walled garden is missing a few stones. Mr. Cook threw them in his glass spaceship.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2989037/iphone-malware...

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/qvakb3/inside-nso...


Is Chromium different than WebKit now?



Yes, and it has been for a while.


- They seem like a danger to our capitalistic system

Good! Capitalism has failed a great many people.


but but Hillary's emails. ugh


He does mention end to end encryption, which is a feature of Messages, and is part of the overall argument.


Thank you I completely agree. Chrome is garbage and I wouldn't trust google with my photos or calendar data.


You're missing out. Google Photos is a revelation. But condemn the company for a product because absolutes are the best way to think.


Bing goes the way of Ping?


Don't understand why people like the Chromcast. I couldn't believe it didn't run apps natively. What a joke.


Exactly. Occasionally I'll give Chrome, Firefox, among others a try, but I keep coming back to Safari. I hate the way the other browsers look, especially Chrome, and Safari is super quick while being easy on the battery.


Its being the only major browser that respects battery life is pretty much the only reason I use Safari. It hurts to see that "time remaining" indicator drop by 2 hours just because I have Chrome open.

I really miss Chrome's multi-profile support, but it's just so much heavier. Last time I used Firefox (admittedly ~3 years ago) it was even worse. System-wide beachballs. Much worse than having Eclipse open. That's what got me to switch to Chrome for a time, after being a FF user since the Phoenix/Firebird days.


That's because Apple actively provides Safari with advantages with regards to API access and performance. They royally screw over the other browser vendors.


Safari's engine, WebKit, is open source. There are no secret advantages. Other browsers are free to read WebKit's code and copy its techniques.


Not true.

Apple also owns the app store and the default configuration of the OS is moving towards only allowing app store software (has it already finished that transition)?

They can and will reject anyone who uses private apis that they themselves use.

In addition, because they own the OS they can require that a private API is only accessed by software signed by them.

It also could cause firefox to break on OS updates and would require firefox to keep abrest of those changes.

Here's a couple references:

Apple does use private APIs: http://www.wired.com/2008/02/firefox_developer_uncovers_appl...

Apple rejected firefox from the app store at some point for using private apis:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636841


You can still install any software you want on your Mac. As that bugzilla page says, Firefox already uses plenty of private APIs, so this doesn't seem to be a big deal in practice. And Firefox was not rejected from the App Store, another XUL client was (IMVU).


> Safari is super quick while being easy on the battery.

That's not surprising, considering it's the only product not forced to use the public web view object in iOS. It's like Microsoft Office, which has always used private MS apis that other products running on Windows were not allowed/supposed to.


I believe they're talking about Desktop Safari, there's yet no Firefox for iOS to test.


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