I think they now allowed to use expired BRPs for a few months post 1st Jan.
From HO website: "You may be able to use your expired BRP to travel to the UK until 31 March 2025 if both: your BRP expires on or after 31 December 2024. you still have permission to stay in the UK."
Yes, they’ve said that, but gate agents at airports are the people who get to make decisions about boarding and expired documents will definitely freak them out. The issue isn’t really at border control, where there’s direct access to the databases anyway, it’s at the various stages of delegated border enforcement (boarding a plane, right to rent etc) where this will suck.
You might be able to bully them into accepting them because it’s in Timatic but there will be British residents who are blocked at least temporarily because of this.
That's not true. My freshly printed passport was denied by a computer at the UK border, they ran forensic checks for 2 hours while I waited in detention and then it was all good and they let me go.
No, if you don't come with a database solution, any paper or physical only solution is 100% counterfeitable, with just enough means poured into it.
Mafias all around the world will buy expensively any valid or even used identity document just for this purpose, i.e. to study it and perfect their forgery skills.
The process you witnessed is a remnant of the past, a feature of the necessary transition period, and I hope it disappears soon, because that's a giant gaping security hole.
Btw, your fingerprints are in the database, as some facial features too. That could be in addition to retinal scans and, why not, DNA features too in the future.
Thanks to all those biometric data, in case of a problem, the process will be much more reliable using the database than using old fashioned paper IDs.
Also, all these tests are very fast to perform (excepted maybe DNA tests), much quicker than the unreliable administrative cross-checks that were performed until now when there was an ID issue.
8 years at Meta, worked in AR/VR/Spark stack and mobile/desktop/xplat apps like Instagram for iOS, macOS apps (Origami), comprehensive list @ https://kurilo.org/facebook-work/.
Before that at MSQRD (acq. by Meta in '15) and Toggl.com. Solo-built my own iOS apps with revenue, advised several startups. Know AR/VR and healthcare sector well.
It's a very sensitive topic for the health data! Too many apps sending data left and right, 23andme scandal.. very few apps (e.g. Carrot Care on iOS) adopt such great philosophy.
I joined Meta at 20 years old, without Bachelors Degree, fully self-taught. Possible 100%. Mostly learnt all the skills by doing and then reflecting through online courses and paid ad-hoc for teachers 1:1 online.
If someone knew the answer, they would be currently shorting the affected commodities/securities and deciding on whether they would want to purchase a penthouse unit in a 50 story building or in a 100-story building (instead of posting about it on HN). Alas, no one can answer for sure.
From HO website: "You may be able to use your expired BRP to travel to the UK until 31 March 2025 if both: your BRP expires on or after 31 December 2024. you still have permission to stay in the UK."