sure... if you want an equally shitty experience across all platforms

And... web apps aren't?

i think it's taking advantage of opengl. so all devices that support opengl get accelerated graphics. no need for per-device optimisations.

Stop trying to rely on the hive to vote good stories to the top. Either the democratic approach doesn't work or HN is getting gamed - either way the site is now effectively broken.

A decision has to be made from the top about what HN is all about. If it's startups and business then that's the only type of story allowed. Everything else gets dumped. I don't need another Reddit.

Mods would need strict guidelines about what qualifies and everything even slightly outside of these guidelines gets turfed.

oh and get rid of karma. It's bs. Encourages hivemind like nothing else.

eli_s, I would submit that the hive is able to distinguish good from bad around the origin but once points get very high, votes are self-amplifying.

In other words, what gets 500 votes isn't much better than what gets 300 votes. But what gets 100 votes is much better than what gets 5 votes.

svg. doc is similar to html (nodes in a tree structure) and it can be scripted(js). Animation scripted by hand or using an external lib like jq.

Hey thanks for easybcd - it's awesome!

You're welcome. Thanks for using it. :)

Great work, however it's far short of the quality of Sencha Touch.

I have to wonder what the point of mimicking native UI is.

I've just started learning Obj-C and iPhone dev and getting ones head around basic UI functionality is at most 2-3 days worth of playing around. Is is really worth sacrificing native performance and consistency for such marginal gain?

Shocking as it may sound not all mobile devices are iOS, in fact most aren't. jQuery mobile lets you target a huge number of devices. See the supported browsers page for a list:

http://jquerymobile.com/gbs/

Performance of these types frameworks on anything other than the beefiest mobile hardware is woeful.

I get your point though... 1 click deployment to multiple devices is a great feature.

True, performance on older mobile hardware's not great, my old htc hero runs the demos at a pretty glacial pace. But it wasn't so long ago that javascript performance was apparently so poor that web apps would never catch on and remember this is an alpha version so it's going to get quicker.

I do agree native apps are going to be more appropriate in a number of situations though.

The main focus of jQuery Mobile is NOT to be a competitor to native apps written in Objective C or even Sencha Touch. We aim to build touch-friendly UIs based on HTML5 for web apps and websites that are easy to build and work across a huge variety of platforms.

Sure, you can wrap a JQM site into an app with something like PhoneGap but I agree that a native app will always be more "native" and perfomant.

People never compare web apps built with jQuery UI to native applications created for desktop platforms, so it's a bit puzzling when we see developers try make comparisons between apps built with jQuery Mobile and Objective C. They are completely different tools, each with pros and cons.

The emphasis of the project is on embracing the web for mobile and I think that is the best way to judge the success of this framework.

Thanks for the clarification Todd - this makes perfect sense.

I think what confuses the issue for many people, myself included, is that other frameworks(Sencha) are trying to recreate a pixel perfect iOS/Andriod UI/experience in HTML.

the particles are generated on the fly from the video source

* There's more to life than staying alive.*

um... what?

"Every man dies. Not every man really lives."

Risking your life climbing a mountain is no more "living", than sitting at home with your family watching tv is. Romanticised bullshit.

If you enjoy doing something, do it. Don't do it so you can add it to your list of life experiences so you can pretend that you've lived a better life than somebody who hasn't done it.

I think what is required to even get the change to summit Everest weeds out any people who are just there so they can "pretend they've lived a better life".

I disagree. Most of the time when people do stuff like this, they do it just so they can tell other people that they've done it. They don't do it for the experience, they do it for the bragging rights.

Note, I'm not talking about everyone that does it, just most people.

Dude, you are talking so far out your ass that your small intestine is showing.

Ok. Nobody ever does anything for bragging rights.

Not everything is binary. Other people have different motivations than you. Not everyone does an Ironman for bragging rights. Not everyone starts a company for bragging rights.

If you read my previous comment you will see I addressed exactly that.

"Note, I'm not talking about everyone that does it, just most people."

Reality check: how many people do you know that climbed Everest? When you claim to know why most people do something that you actually have no clue about, you look like an incredibly arrogant douche.

I am aware of that. I felt it warranted repeating for this conversation given what you had written up to my response.

You heard right, think about it for a while.

It will take only a few of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNi17YLnZpg (volvo crash avoidance failure)

to shake people's confidence in these systems.

An amazing product that I've been following for the last year has reached the 1.0 milestone.

I don't use GA so can't comment on feature parity. Importantly (for me) it has a powerful API, plugin architecture, easy integration, dead easy multi-site configuration.

I can't speak highly enough of this product.