will take a look at this loop.

yep, agent and genius are 2 distinct pipelines we're testing.

user id is 'bambax' just like here

hahahaha i love it!!

sound and video generation are very very primitive compared to image gen. definitely something we want to beef up though!

:-) I was surprised when it spoke aloud, myself!

ya - i think the replication of the wechat super-app has been attempted so many times in the west at this point, but maybe agi coding solves this...?

the playbook works relatively well outside west hemisphere. grab, gojek, gozem, yassir scaled well beyond services to fintech.

thanks! we just use good old fashioned postgres running on azure, paired with a node server and blob storage in r2. i like how simple it is, and logs show up in places i'd expect without having to remember how to navigate some ui. queuing was something that took a bit to figure out correctly, but pg-boss ended up being the most straighfoward/easy to deploy on our infra.

oh man sorry i didnt mean YOUR backend, i mean the backend of the apps that you make. in the demo video you showed something about Yikyak clone. whats the backend of that?

haha oh, these kinds of clones are mostly just built on basic KV stores that we store in our postgres db! there's a couple different types of KV stores we give the app generations, but it's mostly just differing auth types (global, private, shared w/ friends).

decent solution for now. curious the tradeoffs of storing the kv in postgres vs a dedicated db. doesnt matter til the apps take off i guess!

i think i've seen this prompt at least 5 times today in the logs lol

yea there's a ton now that i've stopped trying to keep tabs on them. i agree that most 'vibe-coded' apps are still really, really basic, so we try to lean into that. give some cool apis that make certain things easy, and make it easy to create kinda dumb, but fun apps. the sweet spot is usually some kind of meme, or something with your friends, like https://asim.sh/@rish/s/157178/create-a-cute-gamified-app-ca...

currently they only live inside of aSim, but we are playing around with the idea of being able to export apps. the Android APK export is definitely doable, but the iOS side is definitely more challenging, so unsure if we will commit to it.

What about monetization? Do you think integrating ad networks or IAP and then sharing ad monetization revenue or IAP revenue with developers is a good way to go?

I’d say this is more a tool for prototypes.

You could secure angel funding off a simple prototype.

You could also make something funny and share it with friends, if it doesn’t need to be monetized.

I wouldn’t use tools like this for long lived products though.

hmm, kinda like a... y combinator?

We’re a bit different than these since our apps are instantly deployed, not deployed through expo. So right after generation, you tap on your app and it loads and is usable, kinda like a webpage.

React native definitely seems to work the best! I think the current generation LLMs have just seen so much js/ts they can just about do anything in those languages.

This all feels like Dreamweaver + 25 years, to me.

wow I haven't heard someone bring up dreamweaver in probably a decade. brings back memories of coding on my cow colored gateway laptop :')

yep, you could describe it like that!