They need to learn how to be in relation to people who know and care about them, not other random kids (some of whom will be abused at home and hence abusive at school) and the teachers, some of whom will be extremely incompetent, emotionally abusive, pedophiles or all of that.
There's absolutely no way sending a kid to school is better for their social life in any way.
100% agree. I am in touch with exactly 1 (yes 1) friend from elementary / middle school. If I stretch, I can say that there are 3 that I would actually want to talk to beyond this guy.
I am a silicon valley executive making mid six figures. They're ... not, and not because they didn't have the same opportunities. Because of terrible life choices that I could easily have made myself, but, by the grace of God, did not. Amongst my classmates there's premarital pregnancies, domestic violence, lots of unemployment, prison time, etc.
The same is true of my brother and sister-in-law. She comes from an extremely poor family, but managed to make something of herself by going into accounting. Yet, her family is filled with pre-marital pregnancy, deadbeat men, and even some violence. This stuff also existed in her schools. She managed to escape by keeping her head down and avoiding trouble.
Honestly, any of us could have ended up in this 'socialized' group, but didn't. That was because we resisted peer pressure. All of us were extremely awkward kids. You'd consider us poorly socialized. Yet, we've 'made it', and the popular kids didn't.
Of course, then I think of my now-wife, who grew up in much more privilege than we did. Her parents were highly educated (post-graduate) and were extremely deliberate in her schooling, her peer group, etc. While not technically homeschooling, my mother in law carefully crafted my wife's friend group and even took her out of classes if she didn't like the kids or thought the teacher was bad. She didn't have to put up with half the crap my brother, myself, or my sister-in-law had to put up with.
I'm choosing the latter method for our kids, even if that means homeschooling them and using the public schools as a backup.
EDIT: since I've seen religion come up here. My mother-in-law was and is a staunch atheist. My parents and sister-in-laws family are devoutly religious. Not all homeschoolers are religious. While I am religious, that is not the reason we are considering home schooling our daughters
Bingo. It seems like people ignore the huge social risks that sending kinds to public entails and write it off as something children should “learn to deal with”.
Do you know who your child is spending time with at school? I hope so, because they will likely have more influence over your child’s development than you.
If your children aren’t going to a highly selective, highly supervised school, good luck. It’s a crapshoot. Maybe they befriend “good” kids…maybe not.
For example, my nephew is 6 and was playing with a female classmate who (for whatever reason) is already using sexual language and her play is inappropriate. Should my young nephew just “learn to deal” with that?
That triggers two memories for me, 1) having a classmate in middle school that would regularly boast about drinking a 'rum and coke' on his way to school in order to start the day off right, and 2) hearing that my child's school was having the 3rd grade GT class (which my child was in) teach the second graders how to read, and of course several of those second graders were older than my third grader.
If you think the journalists reporting news to your population and the corporate-funded lobbies are bad, imagine the journalists and activists in foreign countries paid for by your corporate-political interests.
They do not need to be "framed" to be caught. They are criminals in the target country even for doing their jobs. This is why China bans them outright... and India has been doing a pretty good job culling them.
Sounds like you have watched too much bollywood. Talk to one of your relatives or friends of friends who's in the police force and come back.
For those who are unaware: one of the forces with big political interest in India is the middle east. The middle east runs a shadow government in India; its two arms are bollywood and the Indian mafia (look up D-company[1]). Before the rise of Modi, they used to churn out shitloads of bollywood movies where the mafia is humanized and police and politicians were always the bad guys... which serves as a recruiting tool for the mafia and demonizes the police and the government.
While the Modi government has tried to take action against this, even as of 2018, movie like Sanju[2] was made which is based on the life of a bollywood actor who was charged for his involvement in the 1993 Bombay Bombings[3]... but the movie shows him as a good guy. In real life, the actor has served the mafia with various mafia-protagonist movies such as Munna Bhai MBBS and Vastaav and is one of the Indian superstars who has deep links with the mafia.
It might be helpful to back up your perspective with data, or better frame your argument. As it stands, your comment doesn’t add much to the conversation.
A few things in particular:
- Crime is a problem in India. The Wikipedia article has a decent overview (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_India). But so is police and government corruption. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_India)
- To call a criminal organization a shadow government is hyperbolic. Similarly calling the romanticizing of crime — a common entertainment trope — a conspiracy, seems a bit much.
- The actor you use as an example was convicted for acquiring weapons from people involved with the Bombay Bombings. He was never accused of being involved in the bombings himself (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Dutt). I’m not sure I follow the accusation of serving the mafia by acting as a criminal in a movie.
Yes, primarily by the mafia and drug cartels, run by the middle east.
> But so is police and government corruption.
One of the reasons (among others) is the mafia which corrupts the police.
> To call a criminal organization a shadow government is hyperbolic.
What does that even mean? The Indian mafia has been killing businessmen, politicians and police... and uses threats, violence and bribes to run things their way in goverment and the police force. That is exactly what shadow government is.
> He was never accused of being involved in the bombings himself
I almost never watch Bollywood. Some of the reasons why I hold the opinions I do can be explained partly by the references listed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31795739
You do realize that you say that you are not influenced by Bollywood movies but the comment you refer to here references Bollywood movies as sources, right?
I refer to Tamil and Malayalam movies, not Bollywood (and these are only one among many sources I mention). Like I said, Tamil movies have been exploring criminal-politician-state nexus for a few decades now, although that doesn’t stop the Tamils from electing famously authoritarian governments themselves.
I don’t buy the argument that mafia or middle eastern emigre have influenced these potrayals in Tamil cinema since the 70s and 80s. It’s the local politics that did.
Maybe there’s merit to the argument about Hindi films (I don’t know), but not Tamil.
You couldn’t be more mistaken if you confuse the South Indian film industry (then centered around Madras/Chennai) with the Hindi film industry (Bollywood, centered in Bombay/Mumbai).
Nothing. Don't learn anything. You'll waste time learning something you'll probably never use or forget what you learnt if you ever need to use it. You are a software developer; you can learn anything when you need to. Save it for then. For now, enjoy your time.
Since you would probably will not do that, my second best suggestion is to learn a language which can do what python can't or not in a straightforward way... for example:
- be performant or elegant... or
- easy to deploy/distribute... or
- have better out of the box dependency management
Hmm, is this a dig on Python? If so, sorry to hear that. My experience has been the complete opposite. Python in inherently intuitive to my way of thinking. And I have seen lots of Python applications where deployment, dependency management has not been a major problem (at least not worse than other languages). I see elegance in a lot of the Python code I read and its performance is good enough for the applications its used in (otherwise, it wouldn't be a good candidate).
Just mentioning that for every one of you, there probably is one of me :)
Hitler is recognized and admired by many. If the change in world order happens when his significance is still fresh, he will surface back as a universally admired figure because it is not very difficult to piece together what the Nazi regime actually did vs what the Soviet occupiers accused them of (and what the US went along with).
> because it is not very difficult to piece together what the Nazi regime actually did vs what the Soviet occupiers accused them of (and what the US went along with).
Could you entertain us with more detail on what you mean here? Germany's atrocities are well documented across Europe ( and North Africa). The Soviets had nothing to do with Drancy or Bergen-Belsen for instance. We know of the Auschwitz horrors through Polish resistance fighters who infiltrated it and managed to escape.
There are some things that the Soviets tried to blame on the Germans, and it was certainly believable ( Katyn massacre), but we knew then and know now that it was indeed the Soviets. So what do you mean? What is it, for you, that Germany and Hitler are getting the blame for that was actually the Soviets' work? I don't see what it could possibly be to wash Hitler's image for anyone, unless your starting position is a bit off.
> Actual Nazi records are still largely classified and still selectively being released obviously after destroying counter-narrative ones.
A lot of Nazi records are public. And so are the records of a lot of the occupied countries. Including mundane details like how much SNCF and Deutsche Bahn billes per "passenger" ( of course usually in cattle/cargo cars), and the amounts. We also have ample witness testimony, and video and photographic footage from the various camps, be they concentration, extermination or transit ( which were in occupied countries and often were managed by the local collaborationist government).
> The second world war was a biological war with typhus as the primary weapon. All of "holocaust" was Germany trying to quarantine and treat the infection... which is why SS doctors were at the frontline of it all. They still lost millions of people. The most affected were low hyegine communities who did not listen to government recommendations
If it was a biological war, where did the typhus come from? And why were people "quarantined" to starvation/exhaustion from work from faraway places likes jews from Netherlands transferred to Auschwitz?
> but the 6 million number is downright retarded if you look at the population records.
6 million is for the jews only, there's an additional 2 million Roma, Sinthy, disabled, gays, etc. Not to mention hundreds of thousands of POWs.
> You can fabricate any story if you get to kill everyone who disagrees with it and that is exactly what the Soviet and American forces did.
Who was killed that disagreed with the story? And how do you think did the Americans, Soviets and all occupied countries get to the same story? Especially countries like Yugoslavia which liberated themselves and were neutral post-WW2? And why do we have stories from people who managed to escape telling of the horrors?
Also, if i might bring your attention to the words of the perpetrators themselves - none of them denied anything. You can go and watch a full recording of the trial of Adolf Eichmann if you want to. You can read the testimony from Nuremberg. You can watch the footage, including of freed inmates, from when the camps were liberated.
And of course you can go and visit any of the camp sites. I've been to Dachau and it's... powerful.
There's absolutely no way sending a kid to school is better for their social life in any way.