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There is a lot of truth to this point that not much time has elapsed yet.

But, I think a lot of the thread is more informed by things that have already happened over much longer periods of time in the recent past than it is by the things that have happened in the last couple weeks. Specifically, there is a large amount of information available on the behavior of the current president during his last administration, and on the actions of the person behind the DOGE efforts.

Nobody is under any obligation to maintain a veil of ignorance about who these people have shown themselves to be. They have not earned any benefit of any doubt.



> the thread is more informed by things that have already happened over much longer periods of time in the recent past than it is by the things that have happened in the last couple weeks

Almost the entire modern history of the US government (including his last term) showed that not much at all changes. And it definitely doesn’t change quickly. Even stuff like tax rates have barely had any meaningful change considering US tax revenue has only increased exponentially since the 1980s along with the GDP. On paper very little changes in gov when you look more than skin deep.

This might be a new precedent where politicians actually do what they say and work hard to change the government but I’m highly skeptical.

Sounds like a lot of noisy broad stroke announcements and highly reactive social media headlines that will turn out to be minor IRL outcomes or get smacked down in court.


I think we're talking about different things. The history of human government is chockablock full of corruption. Not just in the US, but everywhere. Individuals with power often use it to enrich themselves at the expense of the public.

The people currently arrogating unaccountable power, illegally, have given us no reason whatsoever to trust them to use it for the public good rather than their own enrichment.


There's a difference between trying to improve stuff and wrecking stuff with no concern for the law. The later is a lot easier.


> behavior of the current president during his last administration

And what has been the lasting tangible effects of his last administration? Was it the end of democracy and the rise of fascism the Left loves to get hysterical about? Nope. And it won't be the case in this administration either. We can check back in four years to see who's right.


In 2016 people predicted he wouldn't leave office peacefully, and then 4 years later his administration closed with an armed insurrection, thus ending the tradition of peaceful transfer of power in America going back over 200 years.

So you might not want to take that bet, they have a good track record predicting Trump.


> his administration closed with an armed insurrection

This is an opinion held by the Left.




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