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Radiation poisoning has a long tail, so it hard to calculate how many were killed by cancer and for how long. It doesn't mean that we easily discard long-term safety when talking about nuclear power.


No one rational wants to discard long-term nuclear safety, much less easily...

My worry is that we have swung collectively towards the very opposite, towards a demand for unrealistical level of one hundred per cent safety, unparalleled in any other modern activity (flights, medicine, construction, food...)


I have no car, I don't fly on planes, I don't want to have a nuclear station near to me.


Try living by a coal plant or an oil refinery. My lungs and I would take a nuclear plant in my own backyard over a coal plant down the road any day.


That is fine as long as you are willing to submit to a democratic process in the end.

Choosing your mode of transport is completely up to you as an individual, but power infrastructure is a common good and individual people should not be able to veto projects.


> I have no car, I don't fly on planes, I don't want to have a nuclear station near to me.

Even though you don't fly, a plane can still fall on you.

Wait! Hear me out -- in the entire history of the country, there have been a total of 13 fatalities as a result of accidents in nuclear plants in the U.S.[1], whereas aircraft falling from the sky killed:

* 23 people in Wichita when a B-52 stratofortress crashed into their homes in 1965 [2]

* 22 people died (including 12 children) when an F-86 Sabre crashed into a car and then slammed into an ice cream parlor in Sacramento in 1972 [3]

* 15 died when a DC-9 collided with a Piper mid-air and then slammed into a residential neighborhood in Cerritos, CA in 1986 [5]

* 13 died in 1967 in New Orleans when a DC-8 crashed into a private homes and a motel [6]

* 12 died in Evansville, Indiana when a C-130 crashed into the parking lot of JoJo's restaurant in 1992 [7]

* 10 people in an office building in Chicago in 1920 (but that was a dirigible)[8]

* 9 people on a freeway in Georgia 1977[9]

* 9 people in their homes in Chicago in 1959[10]

* 8 people in their homes in New Orleans in 1982[11]

* 7 people in their homes in New Jersey in 1972[12]

* 7 people in their homes in San Diego in 1978[13]

* 6 people in homes or parks in New York in 1960[14]

* 6 people in Miami in 1960 [15]

* 5 people in their homes in Queens in 2001 [16]

* 5 people in their homes in Minneapolis in 1956 [17]

* 4 people in an apartment building in New Jersey [18]

* 4 people on a bridge in D.C. in 1982 [19]

* 4 people in their homes in San Diego in 2008 [20]

* 4 people in their homes in Yorba Linda in 2019 [21]

* 3 people in a church in the San Fernando Valley in 1957 [22]

* 3 people in their homes in North Hollywood in 1962 [23]

* 3 people (two decapitated by helicopter blades and one crushed by aforementioned helicopter) in Hollywood in 1982 [24]

* 3 people who were attending a flight safety conference died when a cessna crashed into the conference building in Wichita in 2014 [25]

* 3 people in their homes in Gaithersburg, Maryland in 2014 [26]

* 2 people in a house in Minneapolist in 1950 [27]

* 2 people in their house died when a 737 crashed into a residential neighborhood in 1972 [28]

* 2 people in a trailer park died when a DC-10 crashed into them in 1979 [29]

* 2 people in car died when an MD-82 crashed into them in Michigan in 1987 [30]

* 2 people killed when a prop plane crashed into their home in New Jersey in 2013 [31]

And many, many other examples. So you see, not only is nuclear power safer than flying, it's much safer than being on the ground as well!

Sources:

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reactor_accidents_in_t...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_USAF_KC-135_Wichita_crash

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Sacramento_Canadair_Sabre...

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroméxico_Flight_498#Accident...

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines#Accidents_and_...

[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evansville_Regional_Airport#Ma...

[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingfoot_Air_Express_crash

[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Airways_Flight_242

[10] https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19591124-...

[11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_759

[12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_6780

[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Southwest_Airlines_Fli...

[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_New_York_mid-air_collisio...

[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominicana_de_Aviación#Acciden...

[16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587

[17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_accidents_and...

[18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Airlines_Flight_101

[19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90

[20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_San_Diego_F/A-18_crash

[21] https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/221520

[22] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_San_Diego_F/A-18_crash

[23] https://dotlibrary.specialcollection.net/Document?db=DOT-AIR...

[24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_Zone_accident

[25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Wichita_King_Air_crash

[26] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_Phenom_100#Incidents_a...

[27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Orient_Airlines_Flig...

[28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_553

[29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191

[30] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_255

[31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweed_New_Haven_Airport#Accide...


People in New Orleans still give directions by means of that 1982 crash site (i.e., a guy I wanted to buy a bike from told me, "turn left where the plane had taken out all those houses..."). I had to regretfully inform him that I was a) not alive then and b) did not know where it came down now that everything had been rebuilt.


This is a good data point, thank you for your work.




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